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My feet, legs, and joints are stiff in the morning why?

By February 14, 2009 - 7:11am
 
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Wow I am having nearly the same condition. My feet, legs, and knees hurt all the time. But it is worse in the morning, and I am stiff as a board when I get out of bed. It does gradually get better throughout the day. I am 5'6 160lbs. But it always still hurts, when I sit or stand in one position for more than 15minutes it gets worse. My muscles tighten, they become stiff. I can't walk down stairs (I can go up, my knees just make creeking sounds). This all started last May, when my right knee swelled up really big (no injury) then fluid traveled all over in my leg, mostly the way gravity took it, to my ankle. I had no insurance at then time, so I had some crutches at home from my Grandfather, I used those because I couldn't walk. It took a week or do for the swelling to go away. I was scheduled to be out of country in July for a month visiting family, so I went even with my leg bothering me (I could walk again at this point). I was there two weeks and got Shingles, I flew home with it and got trated for it. I still can't walk well, and all of my "old" injuries hurt too, like my pinky finger I broke in 4th grade. I strech still daily, and exercise even though it is extremely painful. It hurts so bad I developed a jaw clinching thing I do it constantly, that hurts too (but not nearly as bad). Any ideas of what the heck is going on with my body? Oh I forgot to mention I went to an orthopedic surgeon, and he told me to lose some weight, he sent me for an xray of my right leg, since that is where it all started, and I haven't been back. The xray was negative.

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I have been all over the internet looking for answers to similar pain. I started with achy and feeling acidy around tender tissue. A doctor found my blood counts so low, she feared I would not wake up some morning. OK, transfusion later... I worked on building my blood up. Naturopath says iron is also very, very low and gave iron shots and vitamin B12. My iron lowered, unlike her other patients. Still very acidy (but this; no medical person responds to, except to say, "Oh, not even on the chart.") The stiffness is only upon rising from siting, or in the morning, the first 15 or so steps are horrible. After that, I'm fine as long as I keep moving. Cut back on sugar, use turbinado, take mag, potasium, calcium, vita C, liquid vitamins, powdered greens, yogurt. I don't and probably won't take medicines, or use processed foods. I used to have cracks at the corner of my mouth (10 years of it) that went away when I started putting a tiny pinch of soda in my one cup of coffee. Very sensitive bladder, even water goes right through me. I'm active, I rarely get sick, I'm out of ideas. There is something to the acidic condition. My naturopath says I produce very little of my own hydrochloric acid. It's been a big shrug from any help I ask for. I'm drinking more water, but that just go out almost as fast as I drink it! (lol)

July 16, 2009 - 7:18am
(reply to Maggiemay)

Hi Maggiemay,

Have your doctors ruled out any type of IBS (irritable bowel syndrome), Celiac or autoimmune diseases? Celiac can cause many of the symptoms you describe, including pain and aches, and low iron and B12 levels are common with these types of conditions.

July 19, 2009 - 8:59pm
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Anonymous

I think I saw somethign like this on a "mystery diagnosis" show on TV, all i can say is keep getting it checked out, eventually you'll find a doc who can actually do the uncommon diagnosis and get you the treatment to make you feel better, its not normal to always be in pain, keep looking and good luck

Note on the episode I saw the person was losing flexibily as well, spinal column was getting stiffer and person could bend down after a while. All i can say if you lose hope and your doc cant help, maybe find that type of tv series online and get the episodes and maybe you'll have some info on where to go next.

July 6, 2009 - 2:24pm
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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

Check this link http://www.tv.com/mystery-diagnosis/show/69317/episode.html

July 6, 2009 - 2:25pm
(reply to Anonymous)

Thank you, Anon!!!

July 8, 2009 - 8:36am

Let me see if I can address those questions.

Diet soda-Idon't drink too much. I actually tend to go with the coffee and milk. However the milk is usually accompanied by cereal or cookies and after snacking on either, I get symptoms. I thought it was the milk, but after some experimentation, I find that its the grain. Im wondering if its wheat. Either way, junk food makes me totally sore all over.

There is a blog out there where a group of people are swearing that artificial sweetners ruin your joints and that they got better when they quit. I read that blog and quit diet pop cold turkey. Havn't noticed it making any difference. Google splenda poison. Sorry, I didn't save the address.

As far as low grade allergies go, I was having some eye swelling and I couldn't pinpoint why it was happening. So I went to an allergist and got allergy testing. On your results there are 4 boxes for each food. Depending on how many checkmarks in each row, that's how allergic you are to that food. I had a few foods with 3 and 4 checks and cats I know im really allergic to was 4 checks. But there were a huge number of foods with only 1 and 2 checks. So I call that low grade. They said any one of those foods checked, no matter how many checkmarks they have, could be a culprit and some may not bother you at all. Well I had about 30 foods with checkmarks, lol. Pretty hard to eliminate them all or do a food challenge without starving to death.

I think wheat and corn are biggies for me, judging on how I was feeling after eating cereals. The only cereals that don't bother me are rice cereals. I also get sick from soy sauce, which is a wheat product,l think.

If you really want to know, get tested. Its painless. You'll be lucky if its only a couple things and easy to eliminate. I had so many, i don't know where to start. But I know the way my symptoms wax and wane, its got to be food related.

Funny thing too, I had my sed rate tested when I was taking truckloads of NSAIDS and it was 40. Then my doc said to stop them because she was freaking out about my blood pressure being a little high, so I did. I also behaved myself in the eating department. OFF NSAIDS and on a better diet, my sed rate dropped to 30. Go figure.

June 4, 2009 - 8:07pm
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Anonymous

For those who go to a naturopath or kinesiologist, have them check for candidiasis (not the vaginal variety - in the digestive system)

It can lead to significant inflammation.

I can't speak to whether anyone in this discussion has it but it is more common than people think and most doctors don't believe it is a real medical issue.

June 2, 2009 - 9:45am

Hi, to our latest Anon on this thread. And welcome to Empowher! I'm so glad you found this thread of like-minded (perhaps like-aching) people; maybe we can help you find some answers as well.

I'm so sorry that you're having these issues too. How long has it been since you noticed the stiffness? What did your doctor say about your inflammatory markers being elevated? Did she or he put you on an anti-inflammatory medicine or make any other recommendations?

I am 51 like you, Anon, and am interested for both of us. I often have stiffness and some swelling in my fingers and ankles. I think I have attributed it (perhaps wrongly) to fluid retention and haven't paid a lot of attention to it. But these questions and readers are making me wonder otherwise.

Anon, is there information I can find for you about inflammation in general or about any other questions you have in specific?

June 2, 2009 - 8:44am
(reply to Diane Porter)

Hi Diane, Hi all,

Im the anon you repled to. I've been having swelling in my fingers as long as I can remember,years, ususually after eating too much the day before, I'd wake up with puffy fingers. Then my thumbs started acting up with lots of pain to the point of needing cortisone injections in one of them. Surprisingly, that has pretty much subsided over the last couple of years, except for occasional mild discomfort. The fingers are now stiff every morning and painful, as well as the toes. Sometimes it lasts all day, sometimes it doesn't. All this time, I figured it was osteoarthritis.

Then a couple months ago, my knees started feeling a bit stiff in the morning. This increased at a rapid rate to the point of pain I cannot even describe. I couldn't walk. My ortho said it was osteo and gave me injections of synvisc in the knees which helped tremendously. But my internal med doc said I must have RA or something because osteo doesn't increase the sed rate and CRP. My ANA is negative. So Im waiting for a Rheumatoid factor and have an appointment with a rheumatologist.

I do notice that lots of my problems are worse when I over eat. Whether its the types of foods or the sodium, I don't know. Been to an allergist and I have lots of low grade allergies to foods but I have no idea if they are the cause.

I'd like to keep in touch and see if our cases are in any way similar because its very frustrating. Nobody understands how crappy I feel and nobody in my family (two teenage daughters) will lift a finger to help, including the husband. I've always taken care of them and spoiled them quite a bit. Now Im hurting and nobody gets it...or wants to.
Lisa

June 2, 2009 - 10:59am
(reply to LisaP)

Hi, Lisa. So glad to meet you officially! Feel free to email me personally by clicking on my name -- which is in orange -- above this post.

Interesting that you notice that the problems are worse when you overeat. I have had swollen fingers, ankles and knees for the last three days, after about two weeks of eating mostly crap -- I was packing up our house and then on the road moving it, and you know how you eat in that instance -- frozen stuff, chips, salty stuff, sweet stuff. You kind of throw healthy habits out the window, at least I did. And I think I must be suffering for it now.

Wondering, do you or did you ever drink a lot of diet soda? I did and do, and am trying to cut it out of my diet now. I miss the caffeine, but I drank a lot of soda this weekend too and I know all that sodium isn't good for me.

I have no allergies that I know of, so we don't have that in common, but I've never really heard of low-grade food allergies; is it possible to have some without knowing it?

What doctor did you start with when you started looking into all this?

Ironically, yesterday I was answering a question about inflammation, and went searching for information on natural supplements and foods that help inflammation. If you are interested, here's that thread:

https://www.empowher.com/community/ask/what-hand-pain

June 4, 2009 - 8:20am
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