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Have you had experience with the Wiley Protocol?

By March 3, 2009 - 11:15am
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Has anyone had experience using the Wiley Protocol of hormone replacement therapy?

It is a method where bioidentical hormones are prescribed and are given transdermally -- through the skin -- in a patent-pending cream. A primary

difference between this protocol and some others is that the hormonal levels rise and fall, similar to the way a woman's normal cycle did when she was still menstruating.

There is some controversy on the web about T.S. Wiley's qualifications for developing a medical protocol, since she is not a doctor herself, she studied anthropology (though she co-authored the book "Sex, Lies, and Menopause" with Julie Taguchi, M.D.)

Some women claim wonderful results; others claim very troubling side effects. Does anyone out there have personal experiences to share?

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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

Hi Jillian,
There are no pills on the Wiley Protocol! It is only prescribed with transdermal creams rhythmically dosed. You should check out thewileyprotocol.com to find registered and trained doctors and pharmacies.

June 29, 2015 - 12:34pm
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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

Thank you for sharing. I'm on a journey now to find answers to my peri menopausal symptoms. Are you saying you gained weight on the wiley protocol?

November 13, 2014 - 12:03am
(reply to Anonymous)

I'm a Wiley Protocol Consultant and Educator until we were able to fix the flaws of this protocol. I've been on the Wiley Protocol for 7 years and educated physicians and mid-levels on the Wiley Protocol. This protocol has clinical flaws that Wiley has never been able to fix because she not a physician, she never took the protocol to the clinic. There are a handful of clinical flaws of the Wiley Protocol that have been ironed out and fixed since a doctor in a clinic was able to fix them. Because so many things needed to be changed and updated, the name had to be changed. Wiley has a patent on one level of dosing but we found that dosing wasn't effective enough to fix all the problems women were having. The Panacea Protocol is now the most advanced form of rhythmic dosing optimal HRT, and is considered 4th Generation HRT, whereas the Wiley Protocol is considered 3rd Generation HRT.

You are at greater risk of cancer the less estrogen you have. Estrogen protects the body against cancer, not the other way around. That's why women get cancer AFTER their estrogen declines, not when they have enough like when women are in their twenties.

Be careful of which doctor you go to for HRT because they don't teach it in med school, and the A4M only teaches 2nd Generation HRT. Wiley has no formal clinical training available so ask your doctor where they got their education and training in HRT.

If your doctor wants to be trained in the Panacea Protocol (or Wiley Protocol), let me know and I can forward you that information. Training is funded by the Panacea Sciences Foundation for HRT Research.

The Estrogen Girls Club on Facebook is a Wiley and Panacea Protocol Support Group. List any questions and I will be happy to answer them for you.

July 7, 2014 - 2:12pm
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Anonymous (reply to Menopause Moxie)

I would love to have help with the Panacea Protocol. I tried Wylie before but the Dr. did not help me with it. He refused to explain anything to me. I had a total hysterectomy at age 27 and have used static hrt for ever and it is not working anymore. I would love some help. Wylie was a nightmare for me, but I believe it was because the Dr. would not help me. Thanks.

October 15, 2017 - 4:17pm
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Anonymous (reply to Menopause Moxie)

I would like to try the Wiley and Panacea Protocol. I found a Wiley Protocol Physician in my area, but there isn't a Wiley pharmacy in my area. I am currently using the only compounding pharmacy in the city, where I live. Do you have any suggestions?

February 14, 2015 - 11:53am
(reply to Anonymous)

thewileyprotocol.com has a registry of pharmacies, if one cannot be found in your area, please contact us on our Wiley Protocol FB page for references and assistance. We can always find a pharmacy for someone who needs it!

June 25, 2015 - 10:43am
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Anonymous (reply to Menopause Moxie)

I have just been prescribed the Wiley Protocol, my Dr. would not answer any of my questions I had about the instructions on taking the hormones. I have IBS, and since starting this protocol, whoa, my IBS has gotten worse. Why? He gave me a print out on directions and told me I could use level 1 or 2. I am following level 2. The directions I got when I received the meds was different. They were twice the amount I was shown to take on the handout. My hormones were very low by saliva testing, not blood work. I was using a hormone patch .o5mg. twice a week and I can tell these hormones with Wiley are strong. Should I have started on level 1. I am not sure if you call them levels, since the Dr. did not want to answer my questions. I do not know if he was trained for your Wiley protocol. I do have more energy, but the IBS has to go. Any suggestions. I tried calling a help number on your website, had to leave my name and number, but have not received a call back yet.

August 4, 2014 - 8:18pm
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I'm on it for 3 years already- I started actually about 8 years ago with just P and T- in 1/8 of a dose and slowly increased them as I moved into a perimenopause. Slowly, I started to add some estrogen too. When I nearly missed my period for the first time (it was 15 days late), I immediately called my doctor and said that I'm ready for the full protocol. It's been wonderful so far, in fact, I feel much better - no PMS, etc., than when I was in my 20ies and on my own hormones. I don't share my experience with real life women as I don't want to be 1. questioned and criticised/warned, 2. to reveal my age- I look as someone in her early 30ies and prefer to be taken for such. I heard that many women have problems with the protocol- it seems they all have some underlying problems- I took care of my adrenal deficiency before I went on the protocol. They also blast the high doses after years of deficiencies- and their bodies just can't take it. Even my doctor advised to start the protocol right away- and so does Wiley herself- but I listened to my gut and started super-slowly, replacing only what was missing- and I judged mostly by my symptoms, with my bloodwork being only a very broad guideline. I'd highly recommend the protocol to all women over ~35, starting with the low doses first- but only if they are in good health to start with, are not overweight (hormones, esp. P accumulates in fat), and also have good instincts, willing to learn and to advise their doctors- and have doctors willing to listen.

June 22, 2014 - 9:52am

Jake, the comment to which you're replying does not imply that your mother's protocol *caused* the cancer in this case. But clearly it failed to prevent it.

And if anyone believes that T.S. Wiley has never suggested "to the general public" that her protocol prevents cancer, heart disease, stroke, diabetes, ... -- just combine any or all of those with "wiley protocol" in a Google search.

May 25, 2012 - 2:19pm

I find it interesting Anonymous person, that you are putting SO MUCH energy into trying to dis The Wiley Protocol, and without identifying yourself or giving any credible references to your accusations. Go away and peddle your death generating words somewhere else where people are stupid enough to listen to you.

May 22, 2012 - 8:06am
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