Amazing the different perspective between two people and the same post. Obviously another RN and I'm sure others were capable of viewing the information for the educational value it was posted for and not in response to someones specific request for support. It is truly unfortunate that the facts are so intimidating to you. All of the information posted is documented and researched and as for the comparison to HIV, this was merely to point out how other conditions can be transmitted through bodily fluids and it is not far fetched to think HPV may be any different. It's a shame you are unable to see the comment for what it is. Far too much was told to us about genital herpes for example such that it can only be spread during an outbreak, which was later found to be untrue. It is not unreasonable to question whether this may be true of HPV as well since it may help prevent contracting the virus if the same is learned about HPV. Investigating these things are part of what medicine is all about and making comparisons has often lead to great breakthroughs in science and medicine. Implying that only doctors can have "real" information is of course ridiculous. There are vast numbers of individuals involved with HPV from research to vaccine development who probably know more than many doctors.
Your choice of insulting the nursing profession is also unfortunate. I've met far too many doctors who know little if anything about HPV and some who have compromised their patient's through this lack of knowledge.
My DOCTOR informed me that the lesion I found was completely normal and there was no reason to biopsy it. When this upset me he performed a second surgery 2 1/2 months later at which time he commented on how stupid he felt doing a biopsy on tissue that looked completely normal. Well it wasn't normal and if I had just listened to his opinion the first time around I would probably be at a Stage 4 with liver metastases by now. So much for HIS "real" knowledge.
The fact that you would leave a very good website because you didn't like an answer is not only extreme it's sad because you're depriving yourself going forward.
My post was not in response to anyones particular post or response for support. It was meant to expand on things which were typically not discussed and which research is proving out as time goes by. It is to make the point that HPV is not solely about cervical cancer but more far reaching than that. I'm not sure just whom you expected me to be sympathetic to in that post - perhaps yourself which would account for your upsetment. Having dealt with HPV to the extent that I have makes me very empathetic and compassionate towards those dealing with HPV and its ramifications. This post simply wasn't focused on one of them
Harald zur Hausen, MD is a virologist, researcher and recipient of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Medicine for his discovery that HPV caused cervical cancer. If anyone is familiar with what is and isn't real knowledge when it comes to HPV it's Dr. zur Hausen. After all, he spent over two decades researching HPV.
Dr. zur Hausen recently endorsed and wrote the foreward for a book on HPV. He wrote:
"This is not ony a book for "any mother's daughter' but also for anyone who wishes to become informed about HPV infections, but it also belongs into the hands of many practicing physicians who need to refresh their knowledge of HPV."
So as far as your comment that you will research HPV yourself and get your advice from the doctors who have "real" knowledge, all I can say is that the book that Dr. zur Hausen endorsed and wrote the foreward for and which he describes above, is mine.
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Amazing the different perspective between two people and the same post. Obviously another RN and I'm sure others were capable of viewing the information for the educational value it was posted for and not in response to someones specific request for support. It is truly unfortunate that the facts are so intimidating to you. All of the information posted is documented and researched and as for the comparison to HIV, this was merely to point out how other conditions can be transmitted through bodily fluids and it is not far fetched to think HPV may be any different. It's a shame you are unable to see the comment for what it is. Far too much was told to us about genital herpes for example such that it can only be spread during an outbreak, which was later found to be untrue. It is not unreasonable to question whether this may be true of HPV as well since it may help prevent contracting the virus if the same is learned about HPV. Investigating these things are part of what medicine is all about and making comparisons has often lead to great breakthroughs in science and medicine. Implying that only doctors can have "real" information is of course ridiculous. There are vast numbers of individuals involved with HPV from research to vaccine development who probably know more than many doctors.
September 27, 2010 - 2:04amYour choice of insulting the nursing profession is also unfortunate. I've met far too many doctors who know little if anything about HPV and some who have compromised their patient's through this lack of knowledge.
My DOCTOR informed me that the lesion I found was completely normal and there was no reason to biopsy it. When this upset me he performed a second surgery 2 1/2 months later at which time he commented on how stupid he felt doing a biopsy on tissue that looked completely normal. Well it wasn't normal and if I had just listened to his opinion the first time around I would probably be at a Stage 4 with liver metastases by now. So much for HIS "real" knowledge.
The fact that you would leave a very good website because you didn't like an answer is not only extreme it's sad because you're depriving yourself going forward.
My post was not in response to anyones particular post or response for support. It was meant to expand on things which were typically not discussed and which research is proving out as time goes by. It is to make the point that HPV is not solely about cervical cancer but more far reaching than that. I'm not sure just whom you expected me to be sympathetic to in that post - perhaps yourself which would account for your upsetment. Having dealt with HPV to the extent that I have makes me very empathetic and compassionate towards those dealing with HPV and its ramifications. This post simply wasn't focused on one of them
Harald zur Hausen, MD is a virologist, researcher and recipient of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Medicine for his discovery that HPV caused cervical cancer. If anyone is familiar with what is and isn't real knowledge when it comes to HPV it's Dr. zur Hausen. After all, he spent over two decades researching HPV.
Dr. zur Hausen recently endorsed and wrote the foreward for a book on HPV. He wrote:
"This is not ony a book for "any mother's daughter' but also for anyone who wishes to become informed about HPV infections, but it also belongs into the hands of many practicing physicians who need to refresh their knowledge of HPV."
So as far as your comment that you will research HPV yourself and get your advice from the doctors who have "real" knowledge, all I can say is that the book that Dr. zur Hausen endorsed and wrote the foreward for and which he describes above, is mine.
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